Weekly Beauty Question #3

Q: Is there any beauty brand you dislike or hold a grudge against? Why? Did you experience bad customer service, do you disagree with their business ethics or do you simply think they make bad products?

My Answer: Without going into much details, I've always kinda had an aversion to Sigma. Not because their products are bad, but because of how they promote themselves and the way they started out as a company. I'm not too fond of MUA either because I haven't liked about 80% of the products I've tried from them. Thankfully, I've never received costumer service that was so bad that it has made me not want to purchase from the brand any further. Oh, also! I'm a bit peeved that the drugstore hair brand Organix entered the market (and used to advertise themselves) as Sulfate Free and is not anymore. 

Last week I asked if there was a brand that was predominant in your collection and a lot of you said most of your makeup items were from Revlon, NYX or MAC.

I also wanted to mentioned that on my first beauty question I said I had been disappointed with some of the Maybelline Color Tattoo shades. Catherine suggested I try Bad To The Bronze before completely writing them off. I did and I'm so glad!! Bad To The Bronze is not only gorgeous but also has a much better formula than the shades I had tried (which were mostly the brights and mattes). Thank you for the suggestion, Catherine! I'm loving Bad To The Bronze (also known as On And On Bronze I believe). 

I love reading about all your beauty experiences so feel free to discuss below! Hope you're week has been a good one. :) Happy Sunday!

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  1. I was surprised to read that you don't like MUA, I personally love their eye shadow palettes. :)

    I don't like Chanel makeup. They are ridiculously overpriced and the products I tried were the same quality as a high-street product. But I absolutely love the fragrances, they deserve every penny imho.

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    1. I actually haven't tried MUA eyeshadows which are they're most popular products so I can't speak from experience about those :) the ones I haven't liked are their eyeliners, pressed powders, lip glosses, and their blushes. There's one blush I like from them and 2 lipsticks but the rest leaves me underwhelmed.

      As for Chanel I agree! If find their eye products particularly to be the same quality as brands with a lower price point and I'm not interested in paying just for the label. Although I do love their Vitalumiere Foundation
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  2. Oh, I agree with Sigma! The excessive affiliates turned me off a bit! I may be one of the minority here, but Tom Ford! I liked some lipsticks, but the quality vs the price isn't very justifiable. Burberry's blush for example is WAY better than TF's yet it's less expensive!

    xo, runbarbierun

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    1. Haven't tried Tom Ford yet! I hope to soon so I can see if their blushes and lip sticks live up to the hype :)
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  3. I wouldn't say that I really dislike or hold a grudge against them but mine would be Benefit simply because every single product I have tried of theirs has been a massive disappointment to me! I also feel that their products are really overpriced for what they are and I just don't really get why they're so raved about x

    Curls and Swirls Beauty & Lifestyle

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    1. I was going to write Benefit as well before I read your comment! Their products are quite nice, but are absolutely extortionate prices (I guess you're mainly paying for the pretty branded packaging!)

      Amy| The Little Koala Blog ♥

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    2. I own few Benefit products because it's a brand that has quite never "spoken" to me. As in, I don't find myself getting too excited about their products. I know they're pricier in the UK compared to how much they sell for in the US so I understand what you mean. I wouldn't buy them if I had to spend that much on their products because I don't find them special enough personally.
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  4. I have a bit of a thing with Urban Decay, despite still checking out their products, about their flip-flopping stance on animal testing. 'Cos they were going 16 years, and shouting for 16 years, about how they're for women's and animal's rights, but then they pulled the China BS. It was one thing when MAC did it, despite being CF at the time, because they weren't SO INTO IT (the CF thing, they didn't shout how much they care about animal's rights then) but then UD comes along and... what?! It was just kind of a slap in the face to vegans and vegetarians. Even people I know that aren't CF thought it was messed up.

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    1. Oh, yes! I recall that. A lot of people where upset even those who don't actively look for CF products because it just screamed hypocrisy. I think it made me wary of them because I haven't repurchased or purchased any UD products since. I love their products but it's so strange (greedy) to throw away 16 years worth of their brand's identity just to make some more money in China.
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  5. Hmm, well I don´t really like Nivea because they always do as if they were the brand people should trust in but everybody who knows a bit about skin care immediately recommends you not to use Nivea face cream anymore. Then I was treated in a really unfriendly way by a Shiseido seller but so far I only used one of their products so I can´t say much about the brand itself. Oh and even if I really like Lush and also don´t dislike Body Shop I don´t like the fact that both do as if they were the solution to any chemically produced cosmetics while they use bad ingredients from time to time as well.
    xx
    www.clothesandcamera.com

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  6. I don't have a grudge or whatsoever - but I've been observing how some brands (Origins, NEOM, Liz Earle, ETC) and all other brands that send their products to the top UK bloggers which suddenly becomes a STAPLE in their makeup kits / lustable lists ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

    I mean, I don't blame the bloggers but this constant barragement of "THE NEXT THING TO BUY" may sway so many young girls following their blogs that may ultimately lead to an excessive lifestyle that's not so ideal.

    I guess it's the beauty world and that's how it is- so the point maybe is that we need to be smarter and more informed consumers. Not just voraciously sopping up these propagandist marketing techniques subliminally fed to us.

    Okay, I'll stop now! :) Sorry for the semi-(maybe full) rant Coco!

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    1. I would like to comment on this - THANK YOU! It irritates SO MUCH when so many bloggers who receive PR Samples all post about the same amazingly awesome product that they've barely tried for a week and how essential it is, or how it's a worth a look. Khiehls PR worst offender since they must require a post date or something for every blogger on their list to be saying same thing within the week. Since they have irritated me, I am not partial to buying anything they spam the blogging world with.

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    2. Don't worry, Sharina! I love reading your thoughts! :)

      I'm not sure if this is related but... I remember seeing NEOM candles EVERYWHERE (along with Dyptique) and so many bloggers featured them. They were starting to look amazing to me so I went to check them out with the intention of making a purchase but then I saw that each candle cost over $50 usd!!!! I don't know why but this just seems so outrageous to me. I don't doubt they're made of quality wax or that they have really potent scents but I just wouldn't feel comfortable spending so much on a candle because it burns for a few hours then it's gone forever. I'd gladly spend (and have spent) $30 and $40 on a single makeup item because it lasts me YEARS and I get a ton of usage out of it.
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    3. I completely agree with this! I actually find that it puts me off a product if I see it on 20+ blogs within a week of each other because I become bored with it before even trying it.
      I understand that especially with new product launches it's their easiest way to get their product mass seen in the blogging community and that each blogger wants to be the first to have written about it.
      But one of my main dislikes is for example a new nail polish formula with 20+ shades yet they only send the same 2 to everyone.
      I feel like PR companies could be a lot smarter with it.
      Sam xx

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    4. Sadly PRs have a weird way of going about press samples and new releases. They send their products to a bunch of bloggers and ask them to publish around the same time. I too get tired of seeing a product everywhere. Especially if the reviews all say the same thing. It's quite literally overexposure to me. But of course I, and a lot of readers, follow numerous blog so to us it seems repetitive but maybe not to other people. And if they're doing it it must be working I guess. But for me seeing a review on the same product over 10 times in a week gets tiresome
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  7. Hmmmmm. This could be a long comment, but I will try to limit myself. Growing up, I had a strong aversion to Cover Girl and their lack of shades for anyone beyond medium pink beige. I became even more annoyed when I saw they signed Dania Ramirez and America Ferraro to attract the latino market, but the supposed shades they match are from the Queen Collection, and I don't believe they are even good matches, but highly airbrushed. Same goes for L'Oreal's creation of Fresh Beige for Freido Pinto, N4.5, and that it supposedly matches her. Except, I've seen paparazzi shades of Freido Pinto and I have tried N4.5 and no way is that a match. I am going to stop, but I will end with the atrocious brand Latina Bella? The cheap and extra tacky packaging and branding for this "for latina" brand. Awful execution, cheap ingredients, cheap packaging - nothing remotely attractive.

    How did Sigma start?

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    1. Oh, wow. I actually went over to take a look at Covergirl foundations because I wanted to give them a chance. I found their shade selection to be quite annoying and gave up and went home empty handed.

      Well... Sigma. Um :/ I dislike them for many reasons but initially they put me off when they first debuted because of their whole MAC knock-off fiasco. Their brushes were quite (are still?) literally the same as MAC brushes. If you but them side by side you wouldn't know which is which unless you read the brand name. They were even numbered the same. Of course a lot of blush and eye brushes look similar across many brands, but they looked IDENTICAL. And the named them the same. Their intention was to steal a product another brand had worked on and researched and perfected already. If they wanted to make affordable options then that's great, but it put people off that they didn't even try to distance themselves from MAC. They got so much backlash that they renamed all their brushes. Of course beauty brands borrow and copy ideas from each other, but for example, "dupe" Beauty Blenders have their unique shape and color, chubby stain sticks come in packaging that is different so they differentiate themselves. The Milani Shadow Eyez Sticks are the EXACT same formula as the Urban Decay shadow sticks but the packaging is way different and they marketed them differently, they made them their own. I could go on with examples, lol, but in summary, I know cosmetic brands recycle ideas and mimic each other but what I don't like are blatant rip-offs (like the new MUA Essie polish look-alikes for example)
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  8. I definitely agreed with all the MUA business in this post but I actually bought some of their products recently and i've been quite surprised! Their eyeshadows are good and even though their nail polishes can sometimes be a bit streaky you kinda expect that from £1 bottles!! I guess because they're so cheap that's what you expect haha. Interesting post x

    http://perksofstyle.blogspot.co.uk

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  9. You might hate me for saying this, But I'm not a fan of MAC. I don't know what it is, but I think their products are over-hyped. Now, I only actually own one MAC eyeshadow, so I haven't tried much, but I don't think the colors are particularly interesting. You can find so many dupes in drugstore brands. Just my opinion!

    http://skinstuffbykaty.blogspot.com/

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    1. Haha, I don't hate you at all. I know everyone has different preferences and I like things others dislike and I dislike things others like :)
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  10. For me I hold a little grudge against companies that were once cruelty free but then go and sell in China just to make more money. I still buy from them every now and then but it is rather irritating and it makes me think twice before I buy. I also have been shying away from MUA as the more and more things they release the more they look like rip off versions of products that already exist, I mean I know brands all bring out their own versions of things but MUA just to me appear to blatantly copy :/

    Amy xx
    p.s glad you tried On and On Bronze!! Love that product :)
    A Little Boat Sailing

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    1. Oh, yes. I mentioned MUA in a comment reply a bit earlier. I dislike blatant ripoff products too. I'm all about offering a similar alternative to a more expensive product but come up with your own packaging, come on! xx

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  11. Hmmmm to be honest I'm not sure that I have any gripes against brands Coco!! I think each brand has stand out products as well as some not-so-stellar (sometimes downright awful) products so it's hard for me to say that I hate certain brands in particular. I don't like Revlon eyeshadows, Maybelline polishes, etc. but I also love Revlon lip products, certain Maybelline color tattoos (I had to learn how to love them as well haha), etc. You know what I mean? I do agree with one of the comments above though about certain companies sending out the same products to the same bloggers at the same time and then being bombarded by them by these bloggers... it actually puts me off the product rather than making me want to go out and buy it or even try it!!

    Cassie
    thriftthick.blogspot.com

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  12. I've haven't had the best experiences with certain products from a brand, but I usually try other products and don't write them off completely. I tried MUA's Undressed and Undress Me Too palettes and was completely blown away. Swatched next to UD Naked, MUA's shadows are just as good, with a few shades performing better than UD! I went back and ordered their eyeshadow primer and a tinted lip balm and didn't find those to be up to snuff, so I can see why you might not love the brand if that's been your only experience with them! Their shadow palettes are really amazing, though! :D

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    1. I keep hearing that :) I've yet to try their eyeshadows myself so I want to try them before I write them off. I'm the type that writes off a brand completely because if I've had repeated disappointing experiences with their products I'd rather move on to a brand with more consistency
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  13. The only one I could think of is italian brand Kiko. Almost none of the products I've tried from them have been good quality and their sale assistants are incredibly pushy and don't seem to know all that much about make up.

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    1. I've actually never tried Kiko myself but I know them from fellow bloggers and friends xx

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  14. What a great question for this week Coco. I actually dislike intently Sigma too. I've been debating on whether I should do a post about them or not, considering so many of the beauty bloggers around us are affiliates, but yeah, if I had to say only one brand I totally hate, it's them : (

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    1. I dislike Sigma for a bunch of reasons but like you, I realize that a lot of bloggers are affiliates or enjoy their products so I try to be careful about what I say in order not to offend anyone. I don't purchase from them and don't accept their products or affiliate offers but it's a very personal preference and I don't hold it against anyone who enjoys their products :) but I guess you could say they're on my blacklist lol
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  15. For me it's ELF. Yes they're cheap and I guess I can't expect much for the price but if I can't make it work, even a dollar isn't worth it. My biggest pet peeve is the inconsistency. You can purchase the same product and one of them can be crap and the other can be perfectly fine. Secondly, they have a reputation for using bloggers' pictures without prior authorization or crediting the owner. They've not taken any of mines but I do lose respect for companies that have no morals and ethics.

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    1. Oh, yes. I'm quite familiar with the elf picture stealing stores. Like when they stole Temptalia's picture and claimed it was achieved using elf products.
      I get what you mean. That's how I feel about MUA products. They might cost a pound but if it's something bad I won't use again then it's a pound wasted.
      I haven't tried enough elf to come to such conclusion though xx

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  16. I don't like drugstore brands that blatantly rip off high end brands. Most 'dupes' I have ever tried from the drugstore may have been the same colour but the formula is never as good. The only one I ever really liked was the chi chi rip off of the urban decay naked palette.

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  17. Thanks for this post! My dislike at the moment is the brand chichi! Not sure if its only in Australia though.
    Rebecca x
    www.zemakeup.blogspot.com

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    1. I think they also sell Chi Chi in New Zealand. I found out about it through NZ bloggers

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  18. Great question! I think it's hard to detach bloggers/PR sample issues and a brand but keeping that in mind I would go with Sigma. From their prototype copying to marketing, they put me off with their aggressive style. I was gifted one the Sigmax F80 and not even a year old the brush hairs began to fall out and now it's hard to even use. The quality clearly just isn't there and between that and the other factors, I don't see myself investing in Sigma brushes anytime soon.

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  19. I agree with you... Sigma...and their affiliates... just turn me off. They're like the complete opposite of Inglot for instance. Sigma is a publicity whore.

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    1. I have always thought that they whore themselves out. If the quality is there then the product will speak for itself and people will WANT to talk about it (like you said, Inglot), not because they send free samples to everyone.

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  20. I am not so impressed with Mac eyeshadows. Everyone on YouTube and blogs raves about them but I find some of them patchy and are so expensive for a single eyeshadow.

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  21. i've never been a fan of mac either... I don't know why, I guess the brand image just doesn't appeal to me, and I never thought the quality was all that great. I have a few matte eyeshadows i like but i imagine i could've found similar elsewhere. I used to be into chanel makeup but i agree, it is so overrated - the quality is not worth the price for sure! Oftentimes, I feel the same about Dior. I definitely agree with others about sigma... and i have one diptyque candle and it is BEAUTIFUL. way better than cheap candles in terms of burn time, etc. but my favorite is the capri blue brand that they sell at anthropologie.

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